Hoping for a better forum


#1

I get really frustrated when I hang around forums like xda-developers. Clearly, those guys know their stuff backwards and forwards, but to a guy like me who has less background in tech, they confuse the heck out of me most of the time. Max usually has a way of explaining things so’s I can unnerstand it (sorry Forrest).

Current phone is a GS9+ 965F/DS Exynos version. I didn’t understand when I bought it that I wouldn’t get Tmobile carrier features like WiFi calling which is really important to me as I have very poor cellular signal at work. The only solution I found so far is something called Detonator which is not a ROM but some sort of add-on, but it does require bootloader to be unlocked which I believe will trip Knox and make me lose Samsung Pay forever :disappointed_relieved: so I am waiting to see if a better solution comes along before I try that.


#2

That’s biggest reason for me not rooting my note, I don’t want to lose samsung pay. I know just how you feel. I am a strong advocate of rooting don’t get me wrong, I know were your coming from.


#3

Oh wait around and there will be ROMs that support WiFi calling. In fact, I got it running in my Note 8 and S8, they both do it.


#4

Thanks Max, that is encouraging. From what I had read, WiFi calling was a carrier-dependent function and was enabled within the carrier-specific CSC. But from what you’re saying, that’s not entirely true.


#5

On Sprint that is true, but it is self provisioning. Meaning once you launch wifi calling & finish setup, its provisioned on to the account. Not sure if it’s the same for TMobile.


#6

Yeah no weird provisioning with T-Mobile, if WiFi calling works it will just work. But CSC method could be good for forcing OS to enable WiFi calling.


#7

There are other options to Samsung Pay.
You can use Android Pay and/or your bank’s own nfc payment app by rooting with Magisk, and using the “Hide” option (it’s selected by default for Android Pay) to hide root from that app.
I don’t use Samsung devices since the S3 (when they announced Knox for the S4 ~ didn’t want an OEM that tried to block root), but the “Hide” option might work for Samsung Pay even though Knox is tripped. I really don’t know about that though.


#8

NFC pay apps are fine, but they don’t replace the MST method that Samsung Pay uses, especially on a lot of older card readers, vending machines, etc that don’t have NFC readers.

Plus, my GS9+ is under warranty for another 10 months or so, and I don’t want to void it. Does anyone else worry about that when rooting? I have always in the past waited till me devices’ warranties expired before I rooted.


#9

I usually root one to two weeks after I get a device.
If it breaks I simply buy next one.
Never hapened to me.


#10

I’ll admit the chances of a new device breaking in the first year are pretty low. But when I bought my GS7 Edge a couple years ago, it was defective right out of the box. Freakin T-Mobile made me pay $20 for a warranty exchange too on a BRAND-NEW phone! Pissed me off bigly.

I just wish there was a way to root without losing Samsung Pay. Or, that another vendor would reverse-engineer MST and write an alternative app that uses it and works with root. I don’t think I’ll hold my breath on that one though, lol.


#11

hello, I am new as well. I have an s7 edge tmobile 915T model and I have been reading everywhere but I cannot grasp the idea of how to unlock my bootloader?


#12

I think maybe you mean 935T, which is the US T-Mobile version. Short answer is, you cannot unlock the bootloader on that phone.


#13

Thank you for responding in a timely manner. yes, I made a typo. So I will have to wait for official OTA if i want oreo 8.0 correct?


#14

That is my understanding, yes.